Posted by dereklane on September 6, 2019, 5:01 pm, in reply to "You're rattled"
Fwiw, I think you are right. historically there is a strong parallel, in recent history we have Blair and Obama who elicited the same response from hopeful electorates who hopes then were spectacularly dashed. We need to start asking ourselves why.
In those cases it probably was because the individual leader was corrupt as sin to begin with. Corbyn may not be, but if he isn't, he is compromised enough to be irrelevant. More importantly, we are watching *right now* what happens when the party disagrees with their own leader. They jump ship, the majority collapses, the govt becomes powerless and whatever that leader wanted disappears in the wind.
With a party full of members who dislike corbyn, plus historical record, what do people suppose might happen if he gets in? Either he will fall in line, or he will be rejected. It's precisely why hoping for change within the system is a fools game. We all know this of course so it's a bit confusing to me as to why so many on this board suddenly seem to have forgotten that.
Not that it matters. The only chance we had was to fight the squashing of the referendum result. All the rest is now just business as usual. It may seem in disarray ATM, but the system is working as it should. That is, not for anything the people actually want (inc nhs, welfare etc, conveniently way off the radar for so long now thanks to the manufactured brexit panic).