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You're confusing the official left with the real left
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Posted by Keith-264
on December 25, 2018, 4:02 pm, in reply to "
Disband the Left?
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who have had the answers all along, which is why the official left is so useful to the boss class.
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Disband the Left?
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dovetailjoint
December 25, 2018, 1:44 pm
whats left of the left
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west virginia
December 25, 2018, 3:14 pm
Re: whats left of the left
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dovetailjoint
December 25, 2018, 3:33 pm
Re: whats left of the left
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turtleman
December 25, 2018, 3:45 pm
half right
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west virginia
December 25, 2018, 4:11 pm
Re: half right
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turtleman
December 25, 2018, 7:53 pm
Re: half right
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walter
December 25, 2018, 8:16 pm
no
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west virginia
December 25, 2018, 10:53 pm
Half-empty..
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Gerard
December 29, 2018, 2:26 pm
Re: Disband the Left?
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turtleman
December 25, 2018, 3:41 pm
You're confusing the official left with the real left
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Keith-264
December 25, 2018, 4:02 pm
True
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west virginia
December 25, 2018, 4:08 pm
Re: You're confusing the official left with the real left
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turtleman
December 26, 2018, 4:01 pm
Re: You're confusing the official left with the real left
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Keith-264
December 26, 2018, 6:07 pm
Re: You're confusing the official left with the real left
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turtleman
December 26, 2018, 6:17 pm
No
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Keith-264
December 26, 2018, 10:12 pm
Re: No
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turtleman
December 27, 2018, 1:06 am
Re: No
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AlanG
December 27, 2018, 2:19 pm
Fa Naaaaar!....nm
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Keith-264
December 27, 2018, 4:15 pm
Why would fraudsters choose to disband?
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Ken Waldron
December 25, 2018, 6:29 pm
Re: Why would fraudsters choose to disband?
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turtleman
December 25, 2018, 7:51 pm
"Capitalist liberals masquerading as revolutionaries"?
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margo
December 26, 2018, 6:39 am
But notice, M, how these IDpol-questioners use the same jargonish language that turns off so many
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Rhisiart Gwilym
December 26, 2018, 9:29 am
Re: But notice, M, how these IDpol-questioners use the same jargonish language that turns off so many
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margo
December 26, 2018, 9:47 am
True. NOM
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Rhisiart Gwilym
December 26, 2018, 11:59 am
Nothing of substance there Margo
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walter
December 26, 2018, 11:55 am
Re: Nothing of substance there Margo
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margo
December 26, 2018, 2:46 pm
Re: Nothing of substance there Margo
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walter
December 26, 2018, 4:09 pm
well said, Walter
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west virginia
December 26, 2018, 5:52 pm
I think you put that rather well Margo.....nm
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Keith-264
December 26, 2018, 6:11 pm
Free speech and discussion ... without acrimony, ad hom and labels
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margo
December 27, 2018, 9:16 am
Re: Free speech and discussion ... without acrimony, ad hom and labels
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walter
December 27, 2018, 12:02 pm
Re: Freedom and discussion - and policing the board
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margo
December 27, 2018, 3:17 pm
Re: Freedom and discussion - and policing the board
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walter
December 27, 2018, 4:22 pm
Re: Freedom and discussion - and policing the board
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margo
December 27, 2018, 4:40 pm
Re: Freedom and discussion - and policing the board
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w3alter
December 27, 2018, 5:21 pm
Re: Freedom and discussion - and policing the board
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margo
December 27, 2018, 6:42 pm
Re: Freedom and discussion - and policing the board
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walter
December 27, 2018, 11:38 pm
I think you put that rather well too Margo.....nm
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Keith-264
December 27, 2018, 4:31 pm
Re: Free speech and discussion ... without acrimony, ad hom and labels
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Willem
December 27, 2018, 6:33 pm
Re: Free speech and discussion ... without acrimony, ad hom and labels
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walter
December 27, 2018, 11:42 pm
Free speech and discussion [without acrimony, ad hom and labels] isn't freee speech....nm
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Keith-264
December 29, 2018, 11:00 am
Re: "Capitalist liberals masquerading as revolutionaries"?
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turtleman
December 26, 2018, 5:06 pm
Good post
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Bluefool
December 27, 2018, 10:13 am
Re: Disband the Left? The 'left' which preserves identities shaped and distorted by capital?
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margo
December 26, 2018, 9:15 am
This isterrible too Margo (nm)
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walter
December 26, 2018, 12:36 pm
Pilger et al on ID politics
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Tomski
December 26, 2018, 1:00 pm
Re: Pilger et al on ID politics
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walter
December 26, 2018, 2:05 pm
Walter, re your oft-used phrase " class warriors"
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margo
December 26, 2018, 3:04 pm
Not a 'curious' term Margo - only one group is at war with the other activists!
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walter
December 26, 2018, 3:39 pm
Walter, the answer is "No, I don't". Also, why do you use "war" language?
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margo
December 26, 2018, 3:51 pm
These writers want to reclaim the left for class war Margo
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walter
December 26, 2018, 4:20 pm
Re: These writers want to reclaim the left
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margo
December 27, 2018, 3:49 pm
Re: These writers want to reclaim the left
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walter
December 27, 2018, 5:04 pm
Re: Walter, the answer is "No, I don't". Also, why do you use "war" language?
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dereklane
December 28, 2018, 5:21 pm
Re: Walter, the answer is "No, I don't". Also, why do you use "war" language?
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walter
December 28, 2018, 7:49 pm
Re: Walter, re your oft-used phrase " class warriors"
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turtleman
December 26, 2018, 3:40 pm
Merry Christmas Dan and thanks for the qreat board (nm)
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walter
December 26, 2018, 3:47 pm
Re: Merry Christmas Dan and thanks for the qreat board
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margo
December 26, 2018, 4:13 pm
Lol! "When our views are countered"...by "fishy character","abhorrent concepts","obscene values"?
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walter
December 26, 2018, 4:26 pm
Walter, you mistakenly address me: "fishy character" etc were written by T-man, not myself
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margo
December 26, 2018, 4:53 pm
Re: Walter, you mistakenly address me: "fishy character" etc were written by T-man, not myself
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brooks
December 26, 2018, 5:01 pm
Thanks, Brooks. Helpful (nm)
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margo
December 26, 2018, 5:04 pm
Only 'helpful' for the subject-line effect Margo
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walter
December 26, 2018, 5:17 pm
The Gotta keep up - addendum...
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Ken Waldron
December 27, 2018, 12:11 am
You are slipping, dear, but 'in vino veritas' ... I say ta.
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Tomski
December 27, 2018, 12:32 am
Et tu Tomski; you are slipping, or it might just be the sipping :)
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walter
December 27, 2018, 1:21 am
Re: Et tu Tomski; you are slipping, or it might just be the sipping :)
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Ken Waldron
December 27, 2018, 2:05 am
Re: Et tu Tomski; you are slipping, or it might just be the sipping :)
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walter
December 27, 2018, 10:07 am
If wishes were fishes Walter it would be good, ahem. It's the expose I would be concerned with ...
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Tomski
December 27, 2018, 2:16 am
Re: If wishes were fishes Walter it would be good, ahem. It's the expose I would be concerned with ...
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walter
December 27, 2018, 8:55 am
You have me on the back foot there ...
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Tomski
December 27, 2018, 12:52 pm
Re: You have me on the back foot there ...
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walter
December 27, 2018, 2:55 pm
Re: Et tu Tomski; you are slipping, or it might just be the sipping :)
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Tomski
December 27, 2018, 1:14 pm
Re: Et tu Tomski; you are slipping, or it might just be the sipping :)
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walter
December 27, 2018, 2:58 pm
Re: Thanks, Brooks. Helpful (nm)
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brooks
December 29, 2018, 2:44 am
Re: Thanks, Brooks. Helpful (nm)
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walter
December 29, 2018, 9:54 pm
Re: Thanks, Brooks. Helpful (nm)
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brooks
December 29, 2018, 10:53 pm
Re: Thanks, Brooks. Helpful (nm)
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walter
December 30, 2018, 1:48 am
Re: Thanks, Brooks. Helpful (nm)
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brooks
December 30, 2018, 2:12 am
Re: Thanks, Brooks. Helpful (nm)
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walter
December 30, 2018, 10:08 am
Do snowmen smell carrots nm
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walter
December 26, 2018, 5:22 pm
But you did say "When our views are countered" and my highlighting it was "hardly warranted"
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walter
December 26, 2018, 5:13 pm
Careful
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west virginia
December 26, 2018, 6:39 pm
Re: Careful
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Ken Waldron
December 26, 2018, 8:09 pm
Walter, I presume you're happy with Guardian coverage of women's issues...
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margo
December 26, 2018, 3:37 pm
Re: Pilger et al on ID politics
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Tomski
December 26, 2018, 3:48 pm
Pilger
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west virginia
December 26, 2018, 6:05 pm
Re: Pilger
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Tomski
December 26, 2018, 8:14 pm
For planets read planet ...
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Tomski
December 26, 2018, 8:27 pm
humans
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west virginia
December 26, 2018, 11:09 pm
If wishes were fishes ...
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Tomski
December 26, 2018, 11:56 pm
whither Twirlip
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west virginia
December 27, 2018, 12:09 am
confession of a former class-warrior
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west virginia
December 26, 2018, 11:05 pm
To WV: listening to all points of view
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margo
December 27, 2018, 7:45 am
What is your position on intersectionalism?
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west virginia
December 27, 2018, 4:03 pm
Re: What is your position on intersectionalism?
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margo
December 27, 2018, 4:32 pm
spontaneous things
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west virginia
December 27, 2018, 9:22 pm
Re: spontaneous things
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margo
December 28, 2018, 12:34 am
Why do i hang out here?
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west virginia
December 28, 2018, 2:47 pm
Re: spontaneous things
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Sinister Burt
December 28, 2018, 10:40 am
I kinda figured that
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west virginia
December 28, 2018, 2:52 pm
A word of complaint re Walter's adhoms
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Tomski
December 26, 2018, 8:58 pm
Re: A word of complaint re Walter's adhoms
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walter
December 26, 2018, 10:10 pm
Re: Pilger et al on ID politics
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walter
December 26, 2018, 9:50 pm
"Almost the worst discussions ever here, if memory serves. Embarrassingly bad"
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Willem
December 26, 2018, 10:00 pm
Why it was bad
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walter
December 26, 2018, 10:27 pm
Correction
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walter
December 26, 2018, 10:30 pm
Thanks, Tomski, good to hear Pilger on this [nm]
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margo
December 26, 2018, 3:12 pm
Re: Thanks, Tomski, good to hear Pilger on this [nm]
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Tomski
December 27, 2018, 12:17 am
Sorry you feel this way, W. Would be good if you address points rather than issue one-word disdain?
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margo
December 26, 2018, 2:49 pm
Sorry Margo...it's REALLY terrible :)
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walter
December 26, 2018, 3:44 pm
Walter, you may not 'cheer on crap' but you diss, misrepresent and aim nasty "warrior" labels [nm]
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margo
December 26, 2018, 4:00 pm
Nasty - really? What's wrong with 'warrior' - that's what you're doing and promoting
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walter
December 26, 2018, 4:13 pm
Re: Please WITHDRAW this accusation, Walter, I ask for the second time
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margo
December 26, 2018, 4:21 pm
Re: Please WITHDRAW this accusation, Walter, I ask for the second time
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walter
December 26, 2018, 4:38 pm
Re: Please WITHDRAW this accusation, Walter, I ask for the second time
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turtleman
December 26, 2018, 5:16 pm
The left is by definition not banded, its peer-2-peer. Nm
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Shyaku
December 27, 2018, 1:29 am
Re: Disband the Left?
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Sinister Burt
December 27, 2018, 11:29 am
I agree. We either should not use it at all in this context, or at least add "establishment"...other
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brooks
December 27, 2018, 11:39 am
Re: I agree. We either should not use it at all in this context, or at least add "establishment"...other
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turtleman
December 27, 2018, 3:36 pm
Re: I agree. We either should not use it at all in this context, or at least add "establishment"...other
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brooks
December 27, 2018, 4:52 pm
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