Not a 'curious' term Margo - only one group is at war with the other activists! Archived Message
Posted by walter on December 26, 2018, 3:39 pm, in reply to "Walter, re your oft-used phrase " class warriors""
You say you agree with this: "the sheer mention of class is now automatically treated as if that means one is trying to downgrade the importance of race and gender. In fact, the exact opposite is the case..." Really? Do you just 'agree' because it's a feminist-bashing statement? Because the other things you quote contradict this. From the first few: " Obsession with racism and sexism is a distraction from class struggle and mounts a direct obstacle to it. Class privilege is the key issue" -- "Intersectionality theory has been taken over by liberal university graduates whose only real political commitment is to their own advancement ... a hegemony of capitalist liberals masquerading as revolutionaries". - Mark Fisher "Identity politics is the bane of the left." "re-centralise class in authentic leftist politics" You could say ALL of these about class; it distracts from gender and racial abuses , it's been a vehicle for launching of political careers on fake left crredentials, it's the bane of the left, and we need to "centralise gender (or racial) abuses in authentic leftist politics" These writers (and your good self) go out of their way to denigrate the everyday struggles of race and gender campaigners. So it seems dishonest to accuse those campaigners of knee-jerk reactions to the mention of class. The opposite of what he claims is correct, it seems?
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- Disband the Left? - dovetailjoint December 25, 2018, 1:44 pm
- whats left of the left - west virginia December 25, 2018, 3:14 pm
- Re: Disband the Left? - turtleman December 25, 2018, 3:41 pm
- You're confusing the official left with the real left - Keith-264 December 25, 2018, 4:02 pm
- Why would fraudsters choose to disband? - Ken Waldron December 25, 2018, 6:29 pm
- "Capitalist liberals masquerading as revolutionaries"? - margo December 26, 2018, 6:39 am
- But notice, M, how these IDpol-questioners use the same jargonish language that turns off so many - Rhisiart Gwilym December 26, 2018, 9:29 am
- Nothing of substance there Margo - walter December 26, 2018, 11:55 am
- Re: "Capitalist liberals masquerading as revolutionaries"? - turtleman December 26, 2018, 5:06 pm
- Good post - Bluefool December 27, 2018, 10:13 am
- Re: Disband the Left? The 'left' which preserves identities shaped and distorted by capital? - margo December 26, 2018, 9:15 am
- This isterrible too Margo (nm) - walter December 26, 2018, 12:36 pm
- Pilger et al on ID politics - Tomski December 26, 2018, 1:00 pm
- Re: Pilger et al on ID politics - walter December 26, 2018, 2:05 pm
- Walter, re your oft-used phrase " class warriors" - margo December 26, 2018, 3:04 pm
- Walter, I presume you're happy with Guardian coverage of women's issues... - margo December 26, 2018, 3:37 pm
- Re: Pilger et al on ID politics - Tomski December 26, 2018, 3:48 pm
- "Almost the worst discussions ever here, if memory serves. Embarrassingly bad" - Willem December 26, 2018, 10:00 pm
- Thanks, Tomski, good to hear Pilger on this [nm] - margo December 26, 2018, 3:12 pm
- Sorry you feel this way, W. Would be good if you address points rather than issue one-word disdain? - margo December 26, 2018, 2:49 pm
- The left is by definition not banded, its peer-2-peer. Nm - Shyaku December 27, 2018, 1:29 am
- Re: Disband the Left? - Sinister Burt December 27, 2018, 11:29 am
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