Re: For anyone interested in the actual discussion between Martin and Wolff and not Archived Message
Posted by turtleman on July 13, 2019, 6:16 pm, in reply to "For anyone interested in the actual discussion between Martin and Wolff and not "
For the life of me, I cannot escape the grim conclusion that leftism leads to mental, spiritual, moral and psychological retardation. Abby Martin and Richard Wolff do not debunk Peterson. They misrepresent him, and evade the essential components of his arguments. All these two lefty lemmings can do is bash Peterson in the most petty and ignorant way while regurgitating tired Marxist thought which so many, including Peterson, have already debunked! (I've already explained how Wolff's debunking of JP's debunking is cheap and dirty and misses the point.) There is only a slim, narrow gate. Those who enter it are most decidedly NEITHER leftist socialists NOR capital-praising rightists. I don't know how we might categorize this ideal soul on the straight and narrow, but we can guess the quality of its nature: strong, resilient, faithful, without envy or self-pity, knowledgeable and wise about human psychology, humble, graceful, slow to anger, long in patience, . . . In other words, qualities that are earned and acquired through spiritual, mental and physical endurance and challenge. Recognizing the wrong, the unjust, . . . this is kindergarten. It's not enough! Self-righteousness, and easy ideological fixes predicated on theories and externalities are hallmarks of the privileged brat and the envious loser. The road taken by the serious and humble, on the other hand, is towards deep understanding, deep historical sense, and a high degree of self-knowledge. Politics will not help us on those fronts at all. But effective politics must be informed by these things which are precisely what's missing in all wings, esp. in these gorily degenerate times! When one sufficiently digests the importance of these timeless imperatives, and our general and universal poverty of them, voices like Martin's and Wolff's grate, nauseate and embarrass. Their arrogance, pettiness, and smugness become obvious. And the soul on the straight and narrow will not hate them, but rather pity them. I'm not there yet, obviously, because I still hate them. You know what is the biggest catastrophe, what ought to be our deadliest fear? Not nuclear war. Not climate meltdown. Not Reality TV Star presidents. The greatest catastrophe and our final hell is the loss of faith and reason, self-knowledge and responsibility, gratitude, the loss of any reliability in the manifestation of mature broad perspective. The left today seems to be screeching: "To HELL with those things, we have to save the world first, cos without a world we won't have the luxury for those things!" If this is the case (and the impression is strong), this would prove the left haven't a clue as to why the world is ending in the first place, and are even more clueless as to what's needed to fix it. They are too busy making friends with the Ribbon Heads of the world. The financial fraud taking the world to hell is being fattened and propped up by the unconscious majority. The slide in intellectual and moral integrity is a collaboration between the unconscious majority and the minority manipulators. While it is important to expose the Mass Manipulators, it is as important (or probably much more important) to inspire and help others be strong and courageous and conscious and alert enough to defy peer pressure, dogma and ideological pollution.
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- Re: For anyone interested in the actual discussion between Martin and Wolff and not - turtleman July 13, 2019, 6:16 pm
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