Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... Archived Message
Posted by turtleman on July 16, 2019, 1:32 pm, in reply to "Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be..."
I have great respect for Orwell as an intellectual. I have great respect for Bertrand Russell, C.S. Mills, Noam Chomsky (in spite of my great disappointments in the man lately) . . . so my beef with Martin is not simply her politics. Abby is a child in the intellectual field, earnestly defending a cool ideology. It shows in her argument style, her boilerplate use of hand-me-down concepts (biases that lead to many mistakes, some of which I outlined), it shows in her voice, her body language . . . Now JP, and even the men listed above are not without at least some of those crimes, but they are redeemed by broad knowledge, substantial insights, intellectual depth and acumen, and quality work and track records in their field. Now look, as evidenced by your previous post and this one, you are offended by my insulting journalists and intellectuals for which you have admiration and respect. I'm sorry. I should be more compassionate because I was there too, through my 20s and 30s, coked up on Chomsky and B. Russell and the rest of it, and seduced into the Rousseauian world view and Marxist dialectics. I'm now in my 50s and went through enormous changes (internal and circumstantial), though still financially just month to month . . . and am relieved to find myself cured of that narrow dialectic. Truth and character are the only things that matter (OH the years I have wasted, OH the catching up to do!). The story of humanity is not a political one, it is a profoundly psychological and spiritual one. The politics and wars come out of all that internal stuff, and the interplay of we humans with our terribly fragile egos and frail character and therefore natural aversion to consciousness. We each have enormous potential within us, but we sacrifice, tarnish and pervert our souls with the various deceptions and seductions and ideologies of this world. Character and truth must begin now, inside, storm or no storm, end-of-the-world or no end-of-the-world. This is why I made the statement about how today's youth are being seduced into sacrificing character and dignity and truth at the altar of 'the revolution' (ends justify means). And so the sad catastrophe of the human drama plays out to its bitter end. That said, you and I most certainly need not agree on politics or personalities. We both, God knows, have bigger fish to fish. No hard feelings, all best wishes, turtleman
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- Snakes! - turtleman July 12, 2019, 8:24 pm
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- Thank you B ... the term used for anyone left of the Nazis : )) - Tomski July 13, 2019, 3:01 pm
- Re: For anyone interested in the actual discussion between Martin and Wolff and not - turtleman July 13, 2019, 6:16 pm
- So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - Ed July 14, 2019, 3:41 am
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- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - brooks July 14, 2019, 4:53 pm
- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - turtleman July 14, 2019, 7:00 pm
- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - dereklane July 14, 2019, 9:40 pm
- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - Keith-264 July 14, 2019, 11:15 pm
- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - Ken Waldron July 15, 2019, 12:09 am
- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - dereklane July 15, 2019, 8:53 am
- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - walter July 15, 2019, 9:27 am
- What about the workers? - Keith-264 July 15, 2019, 10:14 am
- Mr T the guy who rallies against identify politics - Adamski July 15, 2019, 10:47 am
- Re: So Peterson is happy take on a lightweight like Cathy "Lost In A Mosque" Newman...who wouldn't be... - turtleman July 15, 2019, 1:20 pm
- Re: For anyone interested in the actual discussion between Martin and Wolff and not - Gerard July 17, 2019, 11:52 pm
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