And sorry, but Wolff is a pompous, sloganeering ideologue and that A. Martin interview amounted to nothing more than two spoiled brats indulging in a snaky, dishonest, ignorant smirk fest.
To translate from Turtle-ese - not that it needs translating - Wolff and Martin exposed Peterson for the fraud that he is. Turtleman, a follower of Peterson, is offended, and retaliates with juvenile name-calling. All par for the course, as are the endless, pained expressions of disillusionment with "the left" and announcements that he is departing from the lifeboat. All very familiar, and all very tiresome.