Re: Faux left, the real left never abandoned the class struggle Archived Message
Posted by dereklane on July 16, 2019, 8:35 am, in reply to "Re: Faux left, the real left never abandoned the class struggle"
Yes. I'd describe the others as liberals, and liberal doesn't equal left. More in common with the right actually. What we see as bad decisions and poor bedfellows is actually always exactly where those people and parties want to be. Real lefties don't compromise on issues of principle. When they do, it doesn't stop them being left, it proves they never were, they were just capitalists waiting for an opportunity. Perhaps the biggest danger of labelling codes of ethics is that. Some people call themselves left wing who are not. Some call themselves Christians who are not. Some call themselves artists who are not, and so on. Most of us need to learn to take people on their actions more than their words. If we care about the enforced disparity of our social and political structures that causes direct suffering, then left is a good description. No one who actually cares stops caring because the money got better. They never cared in the first place.
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