Come on Degsie! You know I mean endless angel/pin arguments; what Trevor Griffiths once memorably Archived Message Posted by Rhisiart Gwilym on December 2, 2019, 10:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum" described, in 'The Party', through the mouth of his character John Tagg, as "the gonorrhoea of the left". Though as I remember I think he was referring to ego-engulfed leftie personalities rather than 'correct analysis' per se. But I assume that it's the jousting egos, rather than any realistic disagreements about actually-doable policy, that give rise to the infant-school stuff about 'my analysis is better than yours! So there!' So much of it is just toddler-aged ego wank, D. Absolutely nothing whatever to do with actually-feasible, realworld politics as they really function, grubby and disgusting compromises as they so often are. Just have another scroll through this thread - one of many such on the Lifeboat - to see what both Trev and I mean about 'gonorrhoea' and 'ego wank'. I'm not at all opposed to realistic discussion of actually doable strategies and policies. The key word, though, is 'realistic': What's the real character of the mess we're in; and what can we really hope to do about it? Once you surrender to those harsh objectivities, you come, glumly, to the realisation that the best the real-world has on offer today in Britain is a JC-lead government in Paedominster, and an independent Scotland. Perfect? Who said anything about perfect. Just bleedin' doable, that's all. In actual, objective reality rather than in the keyboard warrior's (rather comfortable) armchair dreamworld. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - Keith-264 December 1, 2019, 7:59 pm Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - psingh December 1, 2019, 8:15 pm Worth it to get that useless nonentity Corbyn - Keith-264 December 1, 2019, 9:33 pm Re: Worth it to get that useless nonentity Corbyn - John Monro December 2, 2019, 5:40 am I referred to the fascist and zio-fascist wing of the partei - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:35 am Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - Sergei Kirov December 1, 2019, 9:40 pm Jezza for PM - TINA! - David Macilwain December 1, 2019, 9:54 pm Socialism is a turn-coat apology for an ideology.... - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 12:07 am Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - Kenneth December 1, 2019, 10:22 pm Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - johnlilburne December 1, 2019, 10:47 pm Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 12:10 am Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - ceemac666 December 2, 2019, 1:49 am Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 8:54 am The crisis of legitimacy of the Liarbour Partei is proportional to its reformism - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:48 am Come on Degsie! You know I mean endless angel/pin arguments; what Trevor Griffiths once memorably - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 10:21 pm Re: Come on Degsie! You know I mean endless angel/pin arguments; what Trevor Griffiths once memorably - dereklane December 3, 2019, 6:15 pm 1981, when the nature of British politics became manifest - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:37 am Lol! irony unawareness... - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 3:06 am Says the Snat deviationist....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:53 am And? - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 3:18 pm I'm not a trot, I disdain such right-wing deviationists....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 12:03 am Just assume K and p are right off their trollies on this issue, and skip over their posts on it. - - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 6:44 am Comments like this are why i think you're the most contemptible poster on the Lifebelt....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:56 am Oh I'm in K's hall of fame! "The most contemptible". I'll wear it like a medal. LOL! And btw - - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 9:20 pm Pure Bunkum - Chris Rogers December 2, 2019, 6:57 am In a nutshell.... - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:58 am Anyone's who's negotiated anything no matter how small knows Labour's Brexit policy makes no sense - SueC December 2, 2019, 12:04 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 2, 2019, 12:11 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - Tomski December 2, 2019, 12:49 pm The Liarbour Partei fractured in the 60s - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 2:23 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 3:44 pm Maybe, but the working class voted EXIT - Chris Rogers December 2, 2019, 4:12 pm -The Tory working class... - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 4:27 pm Re: -The Tory working class... - Chris Rogers December 2, 2019, 5:51 pm Re: -The Tory working class... - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 7:09 pm Chris you're a breath of fresh working-class air - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 8:57 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 4:21 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 2, 2019, 5:03 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 8:18 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 2, 2019, 9:16 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 10:17 pm I'll go with that, D. I didn't vote in the ref., and have no strong preference either way: a choice - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 10:33 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 3, 2019, 1:49 am Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 3, 2019, 8:06 am Yes - Keith-264 December 3, 2019, 10:47 am Re: Pure Bunkum - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 5:34 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 8:31 pm Re: Pure Bunkum - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 10:22 pm Desist with the Advisory Bunkum - Chris Rogers December 3, 2019, 5:32 am It's not a claim: its fact. - Ken Waldron December 3, 2019, 7:32 am Re: It's not a claim: its fact. - Chris Rogers December 3, 2019, 3:02 pm Re: It's not a claim: its fact. - Ken Waldron December 3, 2019, 5:59 pm You put me right, REALLY - Chris Rogers December 4, 2019, 5:44 am You really ARE father Dougal... - Ken Waldron December 4, 2019, 12:25 pm Re: It's not a claim: its fact. - mack December 3, 2019, 8:06 pm Good point, Liarbour has hidden behind a "bipartisan approach" - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 9:22 pm Consider - Tomski December 2, 2019, 11:08 pm Sophistry squared....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:28 pm Out to lunch nm - Tomski December 2, 2019, 11:43 pm Re: Consider - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 11:40 pm I've touched the nerve for both ... - Tomski December 2, 2019, 11:47 pm Re: I've touched the nerve for both ... - Ken Waldron December 3, 2019, 12:25 am Re: I've touched the nerve for both ... - Tomski December 3, 2019, 12:32 pm Re: I've touched the nerve for both ... - Ken Waldron December 3, 2019, 6:43 pm Re: I've touched the nerve for both ... - Tomski December 3, 2019, 9:51 pm Re: I've touched the nerve for both ... - Ken Waldron December 4, 2019, 1:16 am I guess you are a pessimist : ) nm - Tomski December 4, 2019, 1:50 am No. I'm a sceptic. - Ken Waldron December 4, 2019, 2:05 am Re: No. I'm a sceptic. - Tomski December 4, 2019, 2:32 am Sent me to sleep again....nm - Keith-264 December 3, 2019, 10:49 am Oops, I didn't mean to wake you up : ) nm - Tomski December 3, 2019, 12:41 pm Sophistry - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 2:21 pm Re: Sophistry? Why do you think there are elections every 4-5 years? nm - Willem December 2, 2019, 3:15 pm Fake elections exist to perpetuate minority rule - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 9:28 pm Re: Fake elections exist to perpetuate minority rule - Willem December 2, 2019, 10:08 pm The Tories (Officials) didn't fail - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:30 pm Who exactly blocked TMay's deals? - Willem December 3, 2019, 1:57 am Re: Who exactly blocked TMay's deals? - Chris Rogers December 3, 2019, 5:46 am Yes, no deal is the only honest exit - Keith-264 December 3, 2019, 10:51 am Re: Who exactly blocked TMay's deals? - Willem December 3, 2019, 12:49 pm They didn't have a majority....nm - Keith-264 December 4, 2019, 1:08 am   Searching