Re: I've touched the nerve for both ... Archived Message
Posted by Ken Waldron on December 4, 2019, 1:16 am, in reply to "Re: I've touched the nerve for both ..."
Very nice research Ken ...Btw. your source for the list? -Not really. I've been following this for a long time but the list is merely an easily googled contemporary restatement by the Independent: Trains on UK railways now almost entirely state-owned – by foreign countries Extensive state-ownership exists among UK rail operators, it just doesn't involve the British state http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/trains-uk-railways-renationalise-countries-operators-companies-a9058961.html "e.g. they are in it for profit and re-investment of this profit back into Germany (on their railways). Nice, eh?" - Of course they are. The German elite appear to care for their country which is why its a relative success. Contrarily, the British elite has a phobia about public ownership and a contempt for its own citizens. This along with the crisis of confidence apparent in its capabilities means it refuses to do the same. They probably could not find the buyer for Scottish Water... - Not at all. It was the weekly mentioned Tory dream policy of the Scottish parliament for many years. Part of the marketing was indeed farmed out to Anglia water as a result of UK supported EU tendering rules but its still a publicly-owned company answerable to Scottish ministers. I note Scottish Power went under the hammer etc. Yes. Under the UK Thatcher Major junta. Nothing to do with EU rules. "The basic point I was making is that all the utilities need to be nationalised, no ifs or buts, and our current relationship with the EU does not allow us to do that" As I have pointed out several times, since the advent of Thatcher the Brits were the biggest agents for privatisation in the EU, promoting and supporting the legislation that made it so. It not a matter of our way versus theirs: the British state under both Labour and Tories used its power in Europe to create the very agenda that the pretendy "Lexiters" decry as the fault of those European baddies and EU neoliberal devils whose foreign notions we should all fly away from into the cuddly British arms of the perfidious bitch who promoted them: Madame Britannia. -Its all a lovely self flattering xenophobia but the antithesis of the truth: a bad foreigner did it and ran away. Otherwise on the shibboleth of Nationalisation, as I have pointed out before here, it often acts as a cyclical long term subsidy scam for the elite, taking over businesses that have been screwed to the ground by profit extraction and lack of investment, investing huge amounts of government money for upgrading and modernisation only to be sold at a loss so the rentiers can do the same all over again with the upgraded system before declaring it bankrupt and handing it back. Think Railtrack.. now how long before Network Rail (Railtrack plus oodles of government cash) gets flogged cheap for a repeat performance?
|
Message Thread: | This response ↓
- Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - Keith-264 December 1, 2019, 7:59 pm
- Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - psingh December 1, 2019, 8:15 pm
- Worth it to get that useless nonentity Corbyn - Keith-264 December 1, 2019, 9:33 pm
- Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - Sergei Kirov December 1, 2019, 9:40 pm
- Jezza for PM - TINA! - David Macilwain December 1, 2019, 9:54 pm
- Re: Does anyone remember the "late surges" of the Independence referendum - Kenneth December 1, 2019, 10:22 pm
- I'm not a trot, I disdain such right-wing deviationists....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 12:03 am
- Pure Bunkum - Chris Rogers December 2, 2019, 6:57 am
- In a nutshell.... - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:58 am
- Anyone's who's negotiated anything no matter how small knows Labour's Brexit policy makes no sense - SueC December 2, 2019, 12:04 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 2, 2019, 12:11 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - Tomski December 2, 2019, 12:49 pm
- The Liarbour Partei fractured in the 60s - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 2:23 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 3:44 pm
- Maybe, but the working class voted EXIT - Chris Rogers December 2, 2019, 4:12 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 4:21 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 2, 2019, 5:03 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 8:18 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 2, 2019, 9:16 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 2, 2019, 10:17 pm
- I'll go with that, D. I didn't vote in the ref., and have no strong preference either way: a choice - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 10:33 pm
- Re: Pure Bunkum - Willem December 3, 2019, 1:49 am
- Re: Pure Bunkum - dereklane December 3, 2019, 8:06 am
- Yes - Keith-264 December 3, 2019, 10:47 am
- Re: Pure Bunkum - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 5:34 pm
- Good point, Liarbour has hidden behind a "bipartisan approach" - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 9:22 pm
- Consider - Tomski December 2, 2019, 11:08 pm
- Sophistry - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 2:21 pm
|
|