In the words of that place "Hear Hear"

Well said James I was at the aftermarket seminar day & was unimpressed by Mr Masons responce to my questions regarding his paymasters. How an independant can even consider handing money over to an organisation set up to try to improve the industry image by those who it could be argued do more to harm it than others, amazes me.
The SMMT I am sure would prefer it if their memmbers wishes were followed through & independants were forced out of business, they try to starve our businesses of Information on all systems not just security.
One memory of the day at Watford was Mr Masons bluster & non answer when I asked him to define "the good guys & bad guys". enough said.

Well put James - you obviously either have more time on your hands or had a better eduacation than me

Regards Pete